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After nearly a decade of wanting to get into his music and not, I finally plunged into the music of Mark Heard and was NOT disappointed! Clearly the 23 year old me would not have appreciated what this man had to offer but the 33 year old me is eatin' it up! This got me thinking... some of my few favorite Christian artists are gone... Gene Eugene, Rich Mullins (try to play his songs on guitar or keyboard before you dismiss his music as pap), and now (then) Mark Heard. I am clearly worried about Terry as he's about the only one left (The Choir would count if they would get offa that hill-top city). Well, Phil Madieieira too should be worried if he wasn't too busy selling his songs to country music's biggest names but the word is if he steps into the studio to record an album of his own, the Lord may strike him dead.
Gee, I ramble.
But my original thought was where is the next generation of Mark Heard/Mullins/Eugene? I so much less plugged into that scene than I used to be and to find these gems you really have to look. Or is it that their type was needed for that era alone?
So any suggestions? Are there any Christian artists out there writing the kind of melancholy, introspective (yet not of the gooey Jr-high-journal "woe-is-me-I'm-such-an-artist" kind) lyrics and heart-rending melodies? The only one of which I know, and don't laugh, is Cindy Morgan's last few albums. She can't be the only one singing about the beauty of dark clouds and rain!!!!
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anochria
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What about Bill Mallonee of VOL fame???
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What about Bill Mallonee of VOL fame??? |
http://www.wpln.org/songwriters/
May 8, 2004: Erin McKeown, Bill Mallonee, and Tom Mason
Bill does 4 songs live 
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Good question.
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Mountain Fan
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where are they? underground?
or underwater and slowly bubbling to the surface?
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DaLe
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I would say they are here, among us, some mentioned in the previous posts.
for me Mark Heard was not Mark Heard until his last three CDs.
so, maybe we are already listening, just don't know how fortunate we are...
or have yet to hear their best work...
so just Look over your shoulder they may be singing now...
It takes more than your passion and more than your pain
For the rock of forgiveness to melt in the rain
Look over your shoulder and tell me what's coming
Look into your sad eyes and tell me what you see
Look over your shoulder and tell me what's coming
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I just bought High Noon!
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I just bought High Noon!
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So, it was high time? 
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dennis
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Yup! 
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I think I just caught a whiff on the breeze!
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Here's a list, but don't expect to find them at your local Fam-nada-ly Christian Bookstore (Gift Horse was in the cheap bin on Wednesday, btw.)
Hothouse Flowers - a bit new agey, but if you find their song, "Rose", about the woman at the well, you'll thank me. Newest album is great, but Born is my favorite.
Lucinda Williams - Rated PG-13, but full of the beautiful, sacred and profane! Spiritually full.
Bill Malonee and The Vigilantes of Love - Shut up. Bill is the re-incarnation of Mark Heard. His is a collection that forces you to seek out every album; past, present and future.
Terry Scott Taylor - You've found him. Terry's the best in the genre. He may not be long for this world (my mom's the same age so I refuse to buy that assertion.) but neither are you. Get him while you've got him.
I think you get so much out of their (gene/mark/rich) music because they are dead and the tragedy of artists dead before their time is so intriguing. Look at all the rabid Nirvana fans. I can't separate my enjoyment of Gene's voice on Gift Horse from the apparent foreshadowing to his death. I know he didn't know he'd die in 3 months, but on the record, it sounds like he did.
At the 2002 Super Bowl, U2 attached a song (Walk On), released in 2000, to the tragedy of 9-11. They weren't being prophetic, the song just fit.
Mark Heard wrote great songs; some of the best. But they're no more prophetic than Britney Spears would be if she wrote a song about getting knocked up and then did.
All artists die. It's when they do that draws our mourning and their elevation.
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I think you get so much out of their (gene/mark/rich) music because they are dead and the tragedy of artists dead before their time is so intriguing. Look at all the rabid Nirvana fans. I can't separate my enjoyment of Gene's voice on Gift Horse from the apparent foreshadowing to his death. I know he didn't know he'd die in 3 months, but on the record, it sounds like he did.
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Besides those previously mentioned, the only one I can come up with is Starflyer 59. Jason Martin does not have the poetry that mark heard did but he certainly makes moving music. If you havn't already, buy up everything Starflyer 59 ever did.
I have searched high and low for Mark Heard's replacement and VOL is about as close as you can get. The lyrics (like Marks) are brilliant.
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Besides those previously mentioned, the only one I can come up with is Starflyer 59. Jason Martin does not have the poetry that mark heard did but he certainly makes moving music. If you havn't already, buy up everything Starflyer 59 ever did.
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Jason has some good lyrics, but his real genius is in the music!
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Besides those previously mentioned, the only one I can come up with is Starflyer 59. Jason Martin does not have the poetry that mark heard did but he certainly makes moving music. If you havn't already, buy up everything Starflyer 59 ever did.
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Thanks to you Dennis , I'm wanting to check these guys out...I recently icked up a "Tooth and Nail" sampler called "The Nail" for family listening and a SF59 tune was on it..right up my alley sonically!! 
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Joey T.
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i've never been that crazy about mark heard..... if i'm in that mellow and spiritual of a mood, i'd usually rather listen to keith green or that at the foot of the cross vol 1 and 2 cd......
i haven't played anything like that for several months...... not that that would be evident by some of my other posts lately........ 
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[quote]Originally posted by Joey T.
i haven't played anything like that for several months...... not that that would be evident by some of my other posts lately........
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What's wrong Joey?
Confess it. He will forgive.
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uvulapie
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I'll have to give VOL another shot or two and see if it hits.
For the record, I was into Adam Again and Rich Mullins looong before they shed their mortal coil and found the same enjoyment in their bittersweet music before they died as I do now. I also enjoyed Stonehill's Wonderama but that style of music isn't his natural forte so it's not like I can plunder the rest of his catalog.
I really liked "Leave Here A Stranger" by SF59 and their last one was pretty good as well but, for my money, it gets a bit, er, mopey for my continual listening pleasure. There just isn't the depth lyrically to bring me back again and again.
I'll add VOL back to my list and check out the others to see if anything whets the ol' appetite.
Jasoooooooooooon
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Mark's lyrics are just plain amazing. I don't quite see how you can compare him to Keith Green in that Keith Green was not much of a poet and mark heard was. Many of his songs were spiritual only in an alegorical sense like terry's. Listen to High Noon again.
"...one kiss and I'm lost in your charms."
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