Daniel Amos Message Board » DA Related Discussion » General Discussion » Where is the next generation of Mark Heard's » Hello Guest [Login|Register] Last Post | First Unread Post Print Page | Add Thread to Favorites Pages (3): [1] 2 3 next » Where is the next generation of Mark Heard's Author Post « Previous Thread | Next Thread » uvulapie Mind Peach Registration Date: 09-09-2003 Posts: 193 Location: Applying for a job at the Lavoris factory Where is the next generation of Mark Heard's        After nearly a decade of wanting to get into his music and not, I finally plunged into the music of Mark Heard and was NOT disappointed! Clearly the 23 year old me would not have appreciated what this man had to offer but the 33 year old me is eatin' it up! This got me thinking... some of my few favorite Christian artists are gone... Gene Eugene, Rich Mullins (try to play his songs on guitar or keyboard before you dismiss his music as pap), and now (then) Mark Heard. I am clearly worried about Terry as he's about the only one left (The Choir would count if they would get offa that hill-top city). Well, Phil Madieieira too should be worried if he wasn't too busy selling his songs to country music's biggest names but the word is if he steps into the studio to record an album of his own, the Lord may strike him dead. Gee, I ramble. But my original thought was where is the next generation of Mark Heard/Mullins/Eugene? I so much less plugged into that scene than I used to be and to find these gems you really have to look. Or is it that their type was needed for that era alone? So any suggestions? Are there any Christian artists out there writing the kind of melancholy, introspective (yet not of the gooey Jr-high-journal "woe-is-me-I'm-such-an-artist" kind) lyrics and heart-rending melodies? The only one of which I know, and don't laugh, is Cindy Morgan's last few albums. She can't be the only one singing about the beauty of dark clouds and rain!!!! 04-30-2004 09:06 audiori Administrator Registration Date: 03-12-2002 Posts: 11,145 Location: Missouri Good question. __________________ "Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he shall enjoy everything" -St. Francis of Assisi "A strange fanaticism fills our time: the fanatical hatred of morality, especially of Christian morality." - GK Chesterton 04-30-2004 09:31 Mountain Fan Ubique Epoque Registration Date: 10-09-2003 Posts: 14,224 Location: NC, Alive and Kicking, BOBD where are they? underground? or underwater and slowly bubbling to the surface? __________________ Got a few miles left ... Make sure you have heard a Kind Word! 04-30-2004 09:34 dennis Ubique Epoque Registration Date: 09-19-2002 Posts: 13,303 Location: In not-quite earth, in not-quite heaven. I just bought High Noon! __________________ I'm talkin' bout the Vinyl , the Holy Vinyl. 04-30-2004 09:35 Mountain Fan Ubique Epoque Registration Date: 10-09-2003 Posts: 14,224 Location: NC, Alive and Kicking, BOBD quote: Originally posted by dennis I just bought High Noon! So, it was high time? __________________ Got a few miles left ... Make sure you have heard a Kind Word! 04-30-2004 09:36 dennis Ubique Epoque Registration Date: 09-19-2002 Posts: 13,303 Location: In not-quite earth, in not-quite heaven. Yup! __________________ I'm talkin' bout the Vinyl , the Holy Vinyl. 04-30-2004 09:42 Mountain Fan Ubique Epoque Registration Date: 10-09-2003 Posts: 14,224 Location: NC, Alive and Kicking, BOBD quote: Originally posted by dennis Yup! I think I just caught a whiff on the breeze! __________________ Got a few miles left ... Make sure you have heard a Kind Word! 04-30-2004 09:45 zippetydoodaddy Woolly Eggwhisk Registration Date: 01-29-2003 Posts: 610 Location: Lust is the craving for salt of a man who is dying of thirst. - F.B. Why you wanna cry?        Here's a list, but don't expect to find them at your local Fam-nada-ly Christian Bookstore (Gift Horse was in the cheap bin on Wednesday, btw.) Hothouse Flowers - a bit new agey, but if you find their song, "Rose", about the woman at the well, you'll thank me. Newest album is great, but Born is my favorite. Lucinda Williams - Rated PG-13, but full of the beautiful, sacred and profane! Spiritually full. Bill Malonee and The Vigilantes of Love - Shut up. Bill is the re-incarnation of Mark Heard. His is a collection that forces you to seek out every album; past, present and future. Terry Scott Taylor - You've found him. Terry's the best in the genre. He may not be long for this world (my mom's the same age so I refuse to buy that assertion.) but neither are you. Get him while you've got him. I think you get so much out of their (gene/mark/rich) music because they are dead and the tragedy of artists dead before their time is so intriguing. Look at all the rabid Nirvana fans. I can't separate my enjoyment of Gene's voice on Gift Horse from the apparent foreshadowing to his death. I know he didn't know he'd die in 3 months, but on the record, it sounds like he did. At the 2002 Super Bowl, U2 attached a song (Walk On), released in 2000, to the tragedy of 9-11. They weren't being prophetic, the song just fit. Mark Heard wrote great songs; some of the best. But they're no more prophetic than Britney Spears would be if she wrote a song about getting knocked up and then did. All artists die. It's when they do that draws our mourning and their elevation. __________________ Welcome Happy Campers to Camp CAACONAA! Turning the hearts of fathers back to their children. August 2005 04-30-2004 10:56 dorfsmith Grand Encephalon Registration Date: 03-24-2002 Posts: 28,142 Location: Everybody needs a persicom Besides those previously mentioned, the only one I can come up with is Starflyer 59. Jason Martin does not have the poetry that mark heard did but he certainly makes moving music. If you havn't already, buy up everything Starflyer 59 ever did. I have searched high and low for Mark Heard's replacement and VOL is about as close as you can get. The lyrics (like Marks) are brilliant. __________________ http://www.google.com 04-30-2004 11:12 Joey T. Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 03-13-2002 Posts: 7,777 Location: you can't fire me, 'cuz i quit! - Kurt Cobain.... i've never been that crazy about mark heard..... if i'm in that mellow and spiritual of a mood, i'd usually rather listen to keith green or that at the foot of the cross vol 1 and 2 cd...... i haven't played anything like that for several months...... not that that would be evident by some of my other posts lately........ __________________ 04-30-2004 11:20 uvulapie Mind Peach Registration Date: 09-09-2003 Posts: 193 Location: Applying for a job at the Lavoris factory Thread Starter Thankee        I'll have to give VOL another shot or two and see if it hits. For the record, I was into Adam Again and Rich Mullins looong before they shed their mortal coil and found the same enjoyment in their bittersweet music before they died as I do now. I also enjoyed Stonehill's Wonderama but that style of music isn't his natural forte so it's not like I can plunder the rest of his catalog. I really liked "Leave Here A Stranger" by SF59 and their last one was pretty good as well but, for my money, it gets a bit, er, mopey for my continual listening pleasure. There just isn't the depth lyrically to bring me back again and again. I'll add VOL back to my list and check out the others to see if anything whets the ol' appetite. Jasoooooooooooon 04-30-2004 11:24 Mountain Fan Ubique Epoque Registration Date: 10-09-2003 Posts: 14,224 Location: NC, Alive and Kicking, BOBD RE: Why you wanna cry?        quote: Originally posted by zippetydoodaddy ... I think you get so much out of their (gene/mark/rich) music because they are dead and the tragedy of artists dead before their time is so intriguing. Look at all the rabid Nirvana fans. I can't separate my enjoyment of Gene's voice on Gift Horse from the apparent foreshadowing to his death. I know he didn't know he'd die in 3 months, but on the record, it sounds like he did. ... Brian Healy called it the Dead Artists Syndrome! __________________ Got a few miles left ... Make sure you have heard a Kind Word! 04-30-2004 11:25 zippetydoodaddy Woolly Eggwhisk Registration Date: 01-29-2003 Posts: 610 Location: Lust is the craving for salt of a man who is dying of thirst. - F.B. [quote]Originally posted by Joey T. i haven't played anything like that for several months...... not that that would be evident by some of my other posts lately........ [quote] What's wrong Joey? Confess it. He will forgive. __________________ Welcome Happy Campers to Camp CAACONAA! Turning the hearts of fathers back to their children. August 2005 04-30-2004 11:25 dorfsmith Grand Encephalon Registration Date: 03-24-2002 Posts: 28,142 Location: Everybody needs a persicom Mark's lyrics are just plain amazing. I don't quite see how you can compare him to Keith Green in that Keith Green was not much of a poet and mark heard was. Many of his songs were spiritual only in an alegorical sense like terry's. Listen to High Noon again. "...one kiss and I'm lost in your charms." __________________ http://www.google.com 04-30-2004 11:37 Joey T. Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 03-13-2002 Posts: 7,777 Location: you can't fire me, 'cuz i quit! - Kurt Cobain.... quote: Originally posted by dorfsmith Mark's lyrics are just plain amazing. I don't quite see how you can compare him to Keith Green in that Keith Green was not much of a poet and mark heard was. Many of his songs were spiritual only in an alegorical sense like terry's. Listen to High Noon again. "...one kiss and I'm lost in your charms." actually i would compare his lyrics more with the choir...... mediocre at best... __________________ 04-30-2004 11:46 dorfsmith Grand Encephalon Registration Date: 03-24-2002 Posts: 28,142 Location: Everybody needs a persicom __________________ http://www.google.com 04-30-2004 12:06 Squidzit Platyhelminth Registration Date: 05-14-2003 Posts: 6,235 Location: Be the change you wish to see in the world quote: Originally posted by dorfsmith Mark's lyrics are just plain amazing. I don't quite see how you can compare him to Keith Green in that Keith Green was not much of a poet and mark heard was. Many of his songs were spiritual only in an alegorical sense like terry's. Listen to High Noon again. "...one kiss and I'm lost in your charms." Keith wrote with his love and devotion for Christ. That is the one thing that shines through in his music. His music was all about praising God, not a mere reflection of popular culture, or a feeble attempt at being "artsy". And for sure not a race for recognition and popularity. If you can listen to Keith and not be moved, you are a stone. __________________ "Why a four year old child could understand this... run out and get me a four year old child, I can't make heads or tails of it." ~Groucho~ 04-30-2004 13:25 dorfsmith Grand Encephalon Registration Date: 03-24-2002 Posts: 28,142 Location: Everybody needs a persicom Don't get me wrong. I was raised on Keith Green. His music was pure worship and not very poetic...and there is nothing wrong with that __________________ http://www.google.com 04-30-2004 13:28 audiori Administrator Registration Date: 03-12-2002 Posts: 11,145 Location: Missouri I don't find any of Mark's last albums as "mellow". The lyrics on his last few albums were amazing, not to mention he could play about any instrument he happened to pick up. He was unique. __________________ "Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he shall enjoy everything" -St. Francis of Assisi "A strange fanaticism fills our time: the fanatical hatred of morality, especially of Christian morality." - GK Chesterton 04-30-2004 13:31 Squidzit Platyhelminth Registration Date: 05-14-2003 Posts: 6,235 Location: Be the change you wish to see in the world Not peotic, but it says what needs to be said. Keith Green Asleep In The Light ______________ Do you see, do you see All the people sinking down Don't you care, don't you care Are you gonna let them drown How can you be so numb Not to care if they come You close your eyes And pretend the job's done "Oh bless me Lord, bless me Lord" You know it's all I ever hear No one aches, no one hurts No one even sheds one tear But He cries, He weeps, He bleeds And He cares for your needs And you just lay back And keep soaking it in, Oh, can't you see it's such a sin? Cause He brings people to you door, And you turn them away As you smile and say, "God bless you, be at peace" And all heaven just weeps Cause Jesus came to you door You've left him out on the streets Open up open up And give yourself away You see the need, you hear the cries So how can you delay God's calling and you're the one But like Jonah you run He's told you to speak But you keep holding it in, Oh can't you see it's such a sin? The world is sleeping in the dark That the church just can't fight Cause it's asleep in the light How can you be so dead When you've been so well fed Jesus rose from the grave And you, you can't even get out of bed Oh, Jesus rose from the dead Come on, get out of your bed How can you be so numb Not to care if they come You close your eyes And pretend the job's done You close your eyes And pretend the job's done Don't close your eyes Don't pretend the jobs done Come away, come away, come away with Me my love, Come away, from this mess, come away with Me, my love. __________________ "Why a four year old child could understand this... run out and get me a four year old child, I can't make heads or tails of it." ~Groucho~ 04-30-2004 13:33 Pages (3): [1] 2 3 next » Tree Structure | Board Structure Jump to: Please select: -------------------- DA Related Discussion-- General Discussion-- Upcoming Releases-- CD & DVD Reviews-- Larry - Lucy I'm In LoveFAQs and Notices Daniel Amos Message Board » DA Related Discussion » General Discussion » Where is the next generation of Mark Heard's Forum Software: Burning Board 2.3.6, Developed by WoltLab GmbH