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dfroystad
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$50,000, was that the licencing charge....or to buy the masters ?
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11-04-2007 10:30 |
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jyroflux
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Even if Larry set the price to buy the masters and even if the money was raised, Larry would probably then either raise the price or not deliver the real masters.
I'm betting licensing the masters is the safest bet. Pay half now, half when finished. Seems really ridiculous, but just look at the history of HD.
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11-04-2007 10:39 |
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$50,000, was that the licencing charge....or to buy the masters ? |
Licensing only.
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11-04-2007 11:08 |
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jyroflux
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That's nuts. How many copies would you have to sell just to break even?
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11-04-2007 12:00 |
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Well, way more than Larry knows he will sell. So in essence, he sets the price higher than he knows anyone would pay.
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11-04-2007 12:26 |
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dfroystad
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hmmm...it does not make sense. let's say he licenced the album for $5000, he have to sell 200 CD-r units to make that much....and he will probably only sell 100....so in the end: we never get a proper HD version, and he makes less money.
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11-04-2007 12:58 |
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Yeah it makes sense, we offered to do all the work and pay for manufacturing to do the release real nice and give himn 50% of the money from what we sell... which will be more than he will sell. But, he would rather be in control of the thing and put it out in poor quality than have the money and make everyone happy. The only question is... why?
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11-04-2007 18:39 |
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well, at best maybe he is really having some mental issues ... or maybe getting quite desperate due to medical issues ... either way his behavior lately with all this seems way less than Christian - at best a nominal "pew warmer"
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11-05-2007 12:53 |
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jyroflux
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I think I ordered the second day after it was listed here. It just came in the mail today. |
I think I ordered mine the first day I saw it listed here. As of today it has not arrived. Perhaps they decided to fix the packaging first.
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11-05-2007 14:11 |
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Originally posted by Mark
I think I ordered the second day after it was listed here. It just came in the mail today. |
I think I ordered mine the first day I saw it listed here. As of today it has not arrived. Perhaps they decided to fix the packaging first.
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since i rarely play hd, and when i do... rarely make it past the 3rd song, i'm good...........
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11-05-2007 14:17 |
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I've been thinking lately that, when I feel really critical of people, when I feel that they've done something wrong, that I need to pray for them.
I don't get what Larry does. I don't agree with what he's done here regarding HD, so, maybe we ought to pray for him, and pray that the Townsends get their release out as soon as possible without any snags or problems.
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jyroflux
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I still need to do side by side comparisons, but again, yes many of the songs sound different than the official released versions. I haven't listened to the original "After All These Years" in a long time, so I'd have to go find my original version to compare it. |
Have you had time to give the songs a good listen and/or compared them to the other 'official' versions?
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11-06-2007 01:15 |
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Several songs are an odd mix. "On The Line", "Out Across The Sky" are both odd for starters. They don't sound like the US, Canadian, UK, EP, Rock & Religion or test pressing mixes. "I Love You #19" sounds like the US version, but "Horrendous Disc" sounds like the UK version. The songs are also out of original order. The bonus tracks sound like a little odd mixes as well.
The booklet is one sheet, looks like its printed on a home PC. And the artwork on the disc looks as if it was printed on a home PC too. Whoever Larry is paying to do his manufacturing is ripping him off, unless he is paying them like $200. Thats the main reason we were wanting to pay for the manufacturing and mastering, compare this CD to the reissue of DA's first album.
Thats my assessment after the first run through.
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11-06-2007 08:23 |
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Isn't this current release version's song order the same as the white label test pressing that Solid Rock first sent out back around 1979 (excluding the bonus tracks of course)?
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11-06-2007 10:20 |
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dfroystad
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According to Larry this new CD-r is the official 13-song (+bonus tracks) version of HD. Apparently the masters for this "official version" was just recently discoverd...
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11-06-2007 13:29 |
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Several songs are an odd mix. "On The Line", "Out Across The Sky" are both odd for starters. They don't sound like the US, Canadian, UK, EP, Rock & Religion or test pressing mixes. "I Love You #19" sounds like the US version, but "Horrendous Disc" sounds like the UK version. The songs are also out of original order. The bonus tracks sound like a little odd mixes as well.
The booklet is one sheet, looks like its printed on a home PC. And the artwork on the disc looks as if it was printed on a home PC too. Whoever Larry is paying to do his manufacturing is ripping him off, unless he is paying them like $200. Thats the main reason we were wanting to pay for the manufacturing and mastering, compare this CD to the reissue of DA's first album.
Thats my assessment after the first run through. |
I think I will pass on this one and wait for the webstore version.
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11-06-2007 14:15 |
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dennis
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I think I ordered the second day after it was listed here. It just came in the mail today. |
I think I ordered mine the first day I saw it listed here. As of today it has not arrived. Perhaps they decided to fix the packaging first.
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since i rarely play hd, and when i do... rarely make it past the 3rd song, i'm good...........
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I will listen to the whole thing, but I don't listen to HD very often either.
HD does have some nice moments on it though.
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11-06-2007 14:24 |
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dennis
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What would be really nice would to have a brand new CD.
Not old stuff re-issued.
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11-06-2007 14:27 |
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joey
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Originally posted by dennis
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Originally posted by Mark
I think I ordered the second day after it was listed here. It just came in the mail today. |
I think I ordered mine the first day I saw it listed here. As of today it has not arrived. Perhaps they decided to fix the packaging first.
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since i rarely play hd, and when i do... rarely make it past the 3rd song, i'm good...........
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I will listen to the whole thing, but I don't listen to HD very often either.
HD does have some nice moments on it though. |
you know, i used to like that one a lot more....
but it does sound a lot like the beatles...
now keep in mind the beatles sold lots and lots of records...
but i've kind of grown .tired of those guys............
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