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It was mentioned quite some time ago that in "The Double," Terry and whoever else was chanting, "one, two, one" in German seemed to be mispronouncing "ein" as "eins." Well, I was listening to Nena's 2005 #1 hit "Liebe ist", had to look up a translation online, & found this line in the original German: "wir sind zwei und wir sind eins." (We are two and we are one)
So, I looked in our Manual of European Languages for Librarians & found this bon mot (bolding is original):
"Ein is declined like the indefinite article, the form eins being used in counting and telling time. Zwei and drei have G[enative] -er and D[ative] -en, but they are only used to avoid ambiguity. The others may have D -en when used without a noun, e.g. auf allen Vieren, on all fours.
I guess "eins" is also used when it doesn't have a noun. Anyway, in short, the word "eins" appears to be correct in the song "The Double."
We now return to something people besides me find interesting. 
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So, only a librarian could find that interesting?
Maybe they got some advice from their local library before recording so they could be sure and get it right?
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I found it interesting in the same way that I find poetry interesting.
The less I understand what they are saying, the more interesting it is to me.
Gabe, is there any way you can translate that for the common man?
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exactly... who the hell cares? 
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curmudgeon in your soup?
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I found it interesting in the same way that I find poetry interesting.
The less I understand what they are saying, the more interesting it is to me.
Gabe, is there any way you can translate that for the common man? |
plain and simple: terry used it right. 
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Gabriel Syme
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exactly... who the hell cares?
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Me. But don't worry. I won't burden you any further.
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Originally posted by Gabriel Syme
"wir sind zwei und wir sind eins." (We are two and we are one)
I guess "eins" is also used when it doesn't have a noun. Anyway, in short, the word "eins" appears to be correct in the song "The Double."
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I care as well, theres nothing more on-topic on the DA board as talking about DA and their songs.
I find that translation interesting as relating to "The Double", because it almost sounds as plural of one. We = one. Which is basically exactly what the song is about. "Watch now as the one speaks now as two", "Watch now as the two turn in to one" The old man, the fleshly creation and the spirit, new creation will be reunited as one being even though on earth while one is alive or in control the other is dead or a shadow if itself.
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no worries... it was a question, who cares? and obviously somebody does... so never mind me...
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That is interesting.
i think Joey needs to spank his double.
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That is interesting.
i think Joey needs to spank his double.
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LOL!
Should he throw in an extra lick to grow on? 
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Please confine your licking to that dreadful thread down below, sir.
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Please confine your licking to that dreadful thread down below, sir. |
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That great white buffalo story in the news got me thinking about Nugent, so here's some fer ya (in a continuation of a terribly divergent and downward spiral from an originally quite noble thread 
) It even has Japanese for dorf!
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why, ..... I know that song!
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