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dorfsmith
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Keith was always up front and honest.
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jiminy
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Some of Mike Knotts Music resembles the aforementioned-
He is brutally honest., and can be much darker than Keith or Mark ever were.
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dennis
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Besides those previously mentioned, the only one I can come up with is Starflyer 59. Jason Martin does not have the poetry that mark heard did but he certainly makes moving music. If you havn't already, buy up everything Starflyer 59 ever did.
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Jason has some good lyrics, but his real genius is in the music!
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dennis
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Mike Knott is awesome. Shaded Pain is top notch!
Adam Again is something special as well.
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My first Mark Heard disc was "Satelite Sky", which had both "Orphans Of God" and "Freight Train To Nowhere" on it. You can tell he labored intensely on the lyrics, but they didn't come across as too overworked or clunky.
This was just a guy who liked how words sounded and how you could construct such elegant and meaningful phrases from nothing as disposable as a single word.
So I'd probably reiterate the names that have already been mentioned and add Bruce Cockburn to it, as well as Sam Phillips who has a new disc out (A Boot And A Shoe)...
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05-01-2004 08:45 |
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Originally posted by dennis
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Originally posted by dorfsmith
Besides those previously mentioned, the only one I can come up with is Starflyer 59. Jason Martin does not have the poetry that mark heard did but he certainly makes moving music. If you havn't already, buy up everything Starflyer 59 ever did.
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Jason has some good lyrics, but his real genius is in the music!
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Thanks to you Dennis , I'm wanting to check these guys out...I recently icked up a "Tooth and Nail" sampler called "The Nail" for family listening and a SF59 tune was on it..right up my alley sonically!!
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05-01-2004 11:35 |
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Eis
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Bill Mallonee is amazing! Just about my favorite artist; I love his music and his lyrics move me to no end. I actually found him first (with summershine), then Daniel Amos (I actually found Lost Dogs first, but found GRSP1 and was afraid of country at that time). I moved into all Terry's stuff after that abd found out about Mark Heard from getting the "Strong Hand of Love" tribute Video free with an order from CBD. Bill, Terry, and Mark are among my favorites now. I've gotten Mark's final trilogy on cassette from RadRockers, and am working on getting those converted to CD-R with the wonders of technology
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05-01-2004 20:06 |
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jiminy
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eis-
just backward for me. I been a Heard fan since even before idEOlA..and am just now starting to explore Mr Bill. (thx dambers....)
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carl
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Originally posted by Joey T.
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Mark's lyrics are just plain amazing. I don't quite see how you can compare him to Keith Green in that Keith Green was not much of a poet and mark heard was. Many of his songs were spiritual only in an alegorical sense like terry's. Listen to High Noon again.
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actually i would compare his lyrics more with the choir......
mediocre at best...
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That's just MEAN, Joey....
No comparison. Granted, I didn't get much out of his earlier stuff, but the last three albums (& High Noon which encompasses them) are great. Mark Heard was my nexus maybe five years from secular music with a handful of Christians making their way there (Tonio K., Bruce Cockburn, The Call, T-Bone & Sam Burnett, et al.) to "the ghetto" where valid Christian music actually existed & deserved to be found and to dominate my personal airwaves today. Were it not for Mark Heard, I never would have found Terry, Mike, Rich Mullins, et al. & al. & al.
Re: comments about VoL elsewhere: Get Slow Dark Train. That's the only one you need (heck, it may be the only CD anyone needs by anyone, Zoom Daddy notwithstanding). A lead weight that sinks to the bottom of the heart. The rest is hit-and miss. Yes, good lyrics, but to me it can be so whiny....
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Eis
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Interesting Carl: Slow Dark Train seems to be the least appreciated of Bill's Albums. I would say it's my least favorite, but that still places it nicely on my list of favorites
Judas Skin, Locust Years, Facsimile, and Only A Scratch are amazing. Oh, and for some less whiny/depressing stuff from him (which is the best whiny/depressing stuff there is; taking one to the edge of a cliff where one teeters, falls into the dark void, and lands in the arms of Grace), check out Summershine and Perfumed Letter. BTW, as I'm harping on this, are you talking about his vocal style as being whiny, or just the songs as a whole?
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Eis
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Zoom Daddy! :
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05-03-2004 16:39 |
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carl
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Originally posted by Eis
Interesting Carl: Slow Dark Train seems to be the least appreciated of Bill's Albums. I would say it's my least favorite, but that still places it nicely on my list of favorites
Judas Skin, Locust Years, Facsimile, and Only A Scratch are amazing. |
You forgot:
I think about my ship run a-ground
All of the people I let down
Yes, and the mercy we have found
And the mercy we have found
every time....
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Oh, and for some less whiny/depressing stuff from him (which is the best whiny/depressing stuff there is; taking one to the edge of a cliff where one teeters, falls into the dark void, and lands in the arms of Grace), check out Summershine and Perfumed Letter. BTW, as I'm harping on this, are you talking about his vocal style as being whiny, or just the songs as a whole? |
Since there's two questions there:
1) I have no problems with depressing stuff. Heck, I LIKE depressing stuff.
Lets me know someone's actually been where I am now (that's "now" in a general sense, people; don't go reading unnecessarily into that
) & that there's a way out.... (and FWIW, what I heard of Summershine didn't impress me). As such, I have given out Slow Dark Train almost like a prescription when I see other guys where I'VE been....
2) Re: the whininess: It's sort of both. It seems to come out more in his voice on the earlier stuff (prime example: "Who Knows When The Sunrise Will Be") and more in the songs themselves later on (I checked out after Fetal Position and that turgid baseball song). With a little less gratingness (or just a lower pitch), he could be Bruce Cockburn (speaking of great depressing albums: Go track down The Charity of Night if you haven't already)....
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this may be one of the Next Generation...
Jason Gay
I had 43 people over for a house concert last night.
Jason is a Good mix of humility, talent, speaking, & Rock & Roll!
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I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned Daniel Smith, AKA Danielson. His music is an aquired taste, but he's the artsiest of the artsy.
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dorfsmith
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Danielson is the coolest!!! I have most of his CD's. Good stuff
He's even better live
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Eis
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All The Mercy We Have Found... |
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I almost put that song title down there too!
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