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I haven't truly hung out here lately and just saw this today — I've wondered if there may not be some high quality tapes out there. Now I have to examine what's there.
Thank you
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| Thread: Loose Ends |
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>>"I would most absolutely be interested in a "back room trax" type series!"
Yeah, there have been efforts with this before. The thing about Pearls before Swine (if I got that one the correct way around) is that it is such a hodge-podge and it seems that the big selling point is the "custom" cut that you can get for the increased price -- I kind of hope I don't need a flush of blood to my ego for something like that -- so that when the cut plays I can tell others, "hear that? That's about me. Terry wrote that just for me". I know that's not the only thing about it but it's the thing that stands out.
I don't know how these re-issue and deluxe efforts work: I did get the Shotgun Angel one and I did like that alot, although I was quite surprised that the demos seemed to be very close to the final versions -- it was almost that the band had this collective idea how it should sound and they just made it that way. Kind of remarkable for such a young band cutting their second album. Hopefully they made money on the effort in order to fund other things as well as to provide encouragement for additional work.
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| Thread: Loose Ends |
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'- "Bootlegs"... a few showed up on Hodgepodge... others will undoubtedly be showing up on "Swine Before Pearl" CDs. That is what became of the "back room trax" series that was mentioned in this thread. Terry's really into it right now and I think we'll be seeing some more.'
Are these cuts that are showing up on "Swine Before Pearl" CDs sort of isolated bootleg cuts or is there an effort to organize them chronologically/thematically as in "Preachers"?
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| Thread: Relatively new on iTunes |
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Which album with the Beatle song is problematic?
A Briefing for the Ascent: Long Long Long
LRRH: I'm a Loser
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| Thread: Relatively new on iTunes |
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This is sort of re-issue news. I've just checked and the Lost Dogs have a few more titles on iTunes including Little Red Riding Hood and the Green Room Serenade. LRRH shows the weakness of iTunes. There is a surprise track at the end if you let the last song play and play and play. Now it's sitting right there and you can even buy it individually.
I've just checked a couple other names:
Daniel Amos now has Fearful Symmetry -- I'm not sure if I ran across that before or not.
Also, TST has gone gang-busters: Miracle Faith Telethon(!), Briefing, John Wayne and there are a couple of individual tracks from collections available as well.
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| Thread: Rare CDs (and others) for sale |
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A couple people asked me about the vinyl and other CCM which caused me to root through some more boxes and I have a few more additional items available:
DA Alarma CD $9
TST Avocado Club Volume 1, 5 cuts $9
TST Avocado Club Volume 2, 2 cuts 9
Swirling Eddies Let's Spin $9
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| Thread: Rare CDs (and others) for sale |
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I wasn't expecting the response I've gotten -- but, FYI, most of the things are spoken. I will keep everyone's email around just in case a sale falls through and then contact you if an item is instantly available.
Thank you,
Rob
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| Thread: Rare CDs (and others) for sale |
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I am trying to change my completist ways and am selling some CDs. What doesn't sell from here will probably be put up on eBay but I wanted to give people here a chance at them first, I would rather they go to a home where they will be appreciated rather than be simply treated as product. Shipping charges are not included -- but of course, the more you buy the better the shipping rate. None of the CDs are SS.
CDs of various artists, including DA/SE/TT: (I'm only noting the DA related songs, but there are many other songs on these CDs)
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Seventeen Frontline Classics Vol 2 -- SE "Catch that Angel" $1
Reflections a Brainstorm companion -- DA Note to Anna, LD, Amber Waves Goodbye, DA Buffalo Hills (acoustic), LD Smokescreen, Hard time... $1
Rock the Brainstorm Rock collection: DA If you want to, LD Scenic Routes, DA Banquet at the World's End, LD Breathe Deep $1
Alternative Worship: Terry sings On My Feet Again $2
Flevo Totaal Festival, Live Tapes DA sings "Sanctuary" live in 1985. $5
Brow Beat: TT Will have to do for now, LD No Ship Coming in $5
Brow Beats Wither Wing: TT Happy Old Man, TT Allison $5
Regular Releases:
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Berry Vest of the SE $9
Terry Taylor: Avocado Faultline $9
Terry Taylor and friends Ruckus at the Edge of Nowhere $9
Meat the Farm Beatles -- original issue. $9
Random Acts and Hodgepodge (original issue in the cardboard cover), numbered, #237 $9
TT Songs for the Day After Christmas $9
DA Our Personal Favorite World Famous Hits $9
Terry Taylor Ten Gallon Hat #267/1000 $9
LD Little Red Riding Hood $9
DA Motor Cycle $9
TST A Briefing for the Ascent $9
DA Preachers from Outer Space $9
DA Kalhoun $9
DA Horrendous Disc (original Solid Rock issue) $9
DA BibleLand $9
DA Songs of the Heart $9
DA Live Bootleg '82 $9
Radio promo releases:
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Songs for Radio LD Built for Glory, Made to Last (two here: editted version and also album version). Breathe Deep, Reasonable Service by Mercy River (written by TT). $5
Nu-music Rock Radio Sampler volume 4: SE Knee Jerk $1
TST Mr Flutter/You Lay Down Radio promo (includes Terry introducing and talking about the songs). Also includes "As Long as I Live". $5
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I will also be selling some DA-related collectible vinyl (no that doesn't mean Shotgun Angel circa 1977), but I need to dig them out and see what I have. For those who have a wider ranging taste, I'm going to be getting rid of some other, older CCM (generally, 90s and before). But I'm still making up that list.
If you are interested, please email me at voxrob@earthlink.net. I will not make any more movement elsewhere for a couple of weeks.
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| Thread: Upcoming Releases |
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Sometimes I kind of wonder about the back story of like "rediscovered" tapes. I guess it could be kind of complex -- there could have been material in the possession of any of the 6 band members at the time and even perhaps at a parents house (they were on the road alot back then). Or perhaps any other personnel around at that time.
I was going to present some idle speculation but I won't. It will be an interesting release -- and all this talk of re-found tapes will make us wonder what was left off the final release.
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| Thread: Illegal Stuff and Downloads |
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I'm probably showing a certain amount of fogeyism, but having the rights and the music and the art but no physical thing loses something.
I used to go to record stores and buy LPs. I'd buy one or two -- or if I was really splurging, 3 or 4 -- and I would come home, play the first one, look at the album art which had a canvas that could be expressive, look at the lyrics and/or liner notes. Sometimes I was struck by who was playing on the album -- "wow a couple of the Grateful Dead were on some early Jefferson Starship", etc.. The record-buying experience was a big deal. It was special. Even the process of skipping or repeating a track by going to the turntable, lifting the arm and moving it had something to it.
CDs came along. They were more expensive so I was not able to experiment as much on something that look potentially interesting. Good sound quality. The liner notes were smaller -- and nowadays it's getting harder to read so I need to be more motivated. For the most part, forget about reading the lyrics. But there were still some memorable incidents -- going to get the Beatles CDs the first day they came out (3 and 4 at a pop), going at midnight to get the first Beatles Anthology (also picked up Springsteen). Going to Kaneohe to get the first DA CD -- about 2 weeks after the LP came out. The Springsteen Live box was special -- then again, that came in a package that looked like an LP.
Digital stuff. It's easier to get the old singles without buying 12-20 tracks I don't want. It's certainly fast and convenient. But it's not nearly as much of a big deal anymore. It's just another file on a hard drive and I got more than plenty of those. Is it a treat to buy something online? Well, it's nice to be able to try before you buy and, consequently, get only one or two cuts rather than the whole thing. But, at it's best, the thrill of iTunes shopping isn't even close to buying the actual physical thing. It's just like downloading everything else on the net.
Part of it is the experience of having something physical and tangible to look at when the music is playing. I'll bet session musicians really hate this -- they were close to being ignored before, now they are completely and totally unknown. Yeah, on "Blows Against the Empire", it says that one of the cuts is by Garcia, Hart, et al., but it's not the same thing -- and even though iTunes says that members of CS&N were involved, who knows where. And the groovy, early 70s art isn't there to put the album into a cultural context.
This is why I still buy the physical items. Especially when I really care about the sound quality.
Finally, it _is_ a headache having the stuff -- my house is full too. But having the faceless art on a hard drive seems like a poor substitute. So I keep winnowing through my CDs -- after all, I'm not going to be listening to some of these more than a couple more times... Maybe someone else would like them.
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| Thread: The Lost Dogs on Route 66 |
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... they're in Litchfield, IL -- dinner stop at the Ariston? My wife would be sooo jealous.
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| Thread: Secret Scripts & 3D Glasses |
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One band in the MM! stable that seemed to have some of the same loopy sensibilities -- I'm not sure how much they were really influenced by DA -- was Aslan. They had one memorable evolution-related song and they had other songs that took a wry look at the world around them rather than simply just evangelizing. You can see what's left of that band here:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/crparavel/
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| Thread: producing Daniel Amos |
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Outside producer -- oh, one of the obvious ones was missed:
Brian Wilson
and then.. to reciprocate, Terry would produce a Brian Wilson album. I like that plan.
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| Thread: New DA? |
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Alot of these ideas sound kind of tricky and I'm not sure I understand these single track rewards for pre-orders and what-not and secret web access threads with random tracks scattered throughout. Having old stuff hidden on the website like Waldo isn't exactly what I would think would be the sharpest idea.
There's two ways this could be done where it is more of a straightforward deal based on a couple of assumptions. There is some concert material around of varying degrees of quality. Especially for the poorer quality records, put the concert on a CD with the minimum of messing with it, put it into a simple, tasteful sleeve and put it out as "Audiori's Picks" or whatever. Sell it for 12 bucks or whatever. This is not a preorder, but a relatively cheap, easy way to put out a release fans may want that will turn a profit. Even if you use a track from that concert on a future release, there is a special pleasure of having the entire concert it came from. Heck, I'll be a sweetheart. I have a recording from a concert in 1993 that isn't even listed on your timeline. It's not terrific and the venue had poor acoustics, but it's a snapshot of history. Of course if DA hadn't had a tape rolling at that concert, shame on them -- they easily could have one, maybe Tom knows.
Second... and this depends on how long it takes to record the album... do what was done for John Wayne and Little Big ... halfway through the recording, capture some rough mixes/demos and release that ... preferably as a straight-up sale. You know something? I actually prefer a couple of the Ten-Gallon Hat cuts over the finished product. Selling a rough mix version only works well if the album isn't cut and mixed very quickly (in which case there are fewer differences). I understand that there are quality control things involved so maybe this particular item needs to be a pre-order. But if that's the case, then make it understood that the pre-order means getting 2 cds, rather than a wink and a nod and saying we're giving this special one as a reward for pre-ordering. If pre-orders are buying 2 cds (the demo/rough first, then the finished), then charge more than $15.
If you really do want to do some sort of MP3 download deal, isn't it possible to set up a section of the site with some songs from a particular era, say, and just say "if you want access, it'll cost $8" or whatever. It's not a preorder. It's just what it is -- the customer is getting access to that download area. It would be possible to have several different ones up at the same time -- maybe people aren't interested in "DAs Comedic Moments". And it would be nice if they were thematically linked, not a cassette dub from 1974, a HD outtake, a cut from 1987 and another from 1994.
Similar to the last idea, there had been some interesting radio-oriented CDs that came out: Motorcycle Tracks, the one from Little Red Riding Hood. Those included some really good outtakes ... I really liked the run-through of "Rocky Mountain Mines" and the backing tracks from Motor Cycle. I don't think anything like that has been done in quite some time. Those were both worthwhile releases.
The biggest advantage of these ideas is there isn't the impatience and acrimony of pre-orders and "hey, I paid 2 years ago and you guys are working on putting out HD and DFBB before this new one", blah blah. You order something, you get it. Yeah, maybe do the pre-orders, but it will be very close to the ship date and less confusion will result.
Best wishes in any case.
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| Thread: Ultimate Horrendous Disc Update? |
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So he has more material? Is it better or worse than what he put on the last CD? If it's worse, then you can ask yourselves, "is it really worthwhile?"
If his offer is rejected, he can release another CD...
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| Thread: Ultimate Horrendous Disc Update? |
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"And it also angered Daniel Amos' hard core fans" ... "Norman was also accused by the DA fans of being too defensive in his liner notes"
These fans sound like a bunch of whining knuckleheads. I guess we just complain alot. On the other hand, there is so much about this that is simply odd. For those who have it -- look at what it says why they have no other photos than the cover shots. They would be better off saying nothing.
Although, there is a difference between complaint and evaluation. If a reissue of a work comes out, it will be compared to it's predecessors. What has first struck me is that the sound seems compressed. A couple of tracks sound basically the same, but there are differences that I'm still not sure about in others.
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| Thread: Ultimate Horrendous Disc Update? |
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>>" I am listening to HD for the first time and I'm still not sure about it. I loved Shotgun Angel, and was told I would like HD, but not sure yet."
Yeah, there was alot of that back in the day.
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| Thread: Ultimate Horrendous Disc Update? |
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When I think about it, this is kind of a colossal mistake on his part. He could have advertised this as alternate mixes, rather than the hype he used, and I think there would be significant interest on it's own merits. I was not crazy about purchasing this -- essentially a duplicate of what I got before + 5 -- but if it is alternate takes and what-not, that changes things. You know the market for this are the DA fans, so why not advertise something that would interest them??
But some of his releases have been kind of strange. I remember "The Sky is Falling" has mostly what was on the LP except one cut was exchanged for a live version (if my memory is correct). What's up with that?
I don't know if he deliberately cultivates an aura of mystery and mercurial behavior, but alot of times it just seems head-shakingly strange.
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| Thread: Ultimate Horrendous Disc Update? |
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>>"Okay, I got the new Larry version of HD in the mail today. After my first listen, here's my thoughts:..."
What you have posted is very much appreciated. What is really too bad is that this is the kind of thing I want liner notes for -- after all look at the Anthology series of the Beatles where Lewisohn gives us some details of this take/variation/mix. Of course, Larry may not be the best person to describe what it is we're hearing.
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