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Posted by wes berlin on 04-14-2008 at22:27:
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Originally posted by Strange Animal
alarma and sgt. peppers both sound dated..........
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yes, but not as dated as "darn floor, big bite". i love dfbb but it sounds incredibly dated (like most stuff from the era).
Posted by RoxxRegime on 04-14-2008 at22:32:
Hmmm....
Hmm, lemme see here...
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| and just for the record i was three when sgt. pepper was released. |
My parents were both 10 when Sgt. Pepper was released.
I was born in 1980!
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| i was 18 when darn floor was released...... |
I was 7 when darn floor was released......
AND -- I'm old enough that I'm married, have a mortgage, a home recording studio, etc. Ok, I'll shut up now!
Heh. Everyone tells me I was born in the wrong decade. My favorite bands/artists are DA, Larry Norman, Stonehill, Queen, Springsteen, Pink Floyd, etc.
As a musician, sure, I can here where some things sound dated -- but if the songs are good, I don't care if it's a little dated. I mean, can you imagine hearing Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite with modern production? It just wouldn't be the same without the classic "sound" from Martin's production...and the equipment available at the time.
Posted by Audiori J on 04-14-2008 at23:21:
The reason is that something like Sgt Pepper has actual classical instrumentation, the recording process could be dated, but the strings sound like strings because they are strings. In the late 70s, early 80s people were using lot of synthesizer stuff that was not as sophisticated as it is today. The vibe, synth, sampled sound effects, digital drums were a big fad in the 80s and they were technologically not all that great by todays standards. So the 80s will always have that sort of dated 80s sound.
Today people use synthesizer stuff, but it is waaaaaaay more advanced to the point its harder to tell its not real instruments, and people have pretty much gotten away from synth, vibe, digital sounding drums for the most part.
Posted by jyroflux on 04-15-2008 at00:19:
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Originally posted by Audiori J
...and people have pretty much gotten away from synth, vibe, digital sounding drums for the most part. |
And that's a
good thing.
Posted by Dr Rich on 04-15-2008 at06:38:
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Originally posted by jyroflux
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Originally posted by Audiori J
...and people have pretty much gotten away from synth, vibe, digital sounding drums for the most part. |
And that's a good thing.
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yes it is.
Posted by RoxxRegime on 04-15-2008 at19:25:
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| The reason is that something like Sgt Pepper has actual classical instrumentation, the recording process could be dated, but the strings sound like strings because they are strings. In the late 70s, early 80s people were using lot of synthesizer stuff that was not as sophisticated as it is today. The vibe, synth, sampled sound effects, digital drums were a big fad in the 80s and they were technologically not all that great by todays standards. So the 80s will always have that sort of dated 80s sound. |
That's all true -- but even stuff from today will sound dated in 10 years, simply because there are always trends and fads. Just like how in the 80's, everyone used a big stadium reverb sound on the snare, or digital drums.....then in the 90's, it was about the small drumkit sound......and now, everything (including all the guitars/bass) is WAY overcompressed, giving it a unique sound. Or how about the trend in the 60's, when stereo was still a pretty new concept, and they'd pan the entire drumkit to one side (check out "light my fire" or "Break on through" by the Doors if you don't know what I mean)......or the quad sound from the 70's? Some of these things are technology based...some are just trends. I appreciate them all!
Posted by Dr Rich on 04-15-2008 at19:32:
Yup, for the most part there are give-a-ways to when an album was recorded!
Posted by jiminy on 04-15-2008 at19:36:
I agree- the synth sound rather stymies what is really good stuff from the 80s
-along with simmons drums
I laugh when I hear the dates of some of you all ...I'm definitely a senior member here..but I love the enthusiasm of people who appreciate good stuff- even if they ddint hear it at its inception.
One of the best (and strangest) conversations about taht was discussing Cash and Hank with my F.I.L. he loves old records ..and his growing up in that era made me feel like a shirt-tailer..so trust me- yer not!
Theres still some others my age here that have miles of "insiderhood" over me.
I love to hear it all.
(and some are more than a bit younger than me)
but back to ialarma!-
not dated- just tight guitar and chop shop rock..there was NOT a lot of that going around in any circle..let alone CCM. It has a very early 80-s hum (IMHO) before the synth sound prevailed.
Posted by DwDunphy on 04-15-2008 at19:47:
Let's see. What was I in 1980? Eleven? Is it possible?
For the record, I cannot comprehend being 14 (which is what I was when I found DA) and listening to this stuff. I just didn't think I had the capacity for it then! Gadzooks, it almost makes me seem... hip? How could that be?!?
Posted by Eis on 04-15-2008 at19:49:
RE: Hmmm....
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Originally posted by RoxxRegime
Hmm, lemme see here...
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| and just for the record i was three when sgt. pepper was released. |
My parents were both 10 when Sgt. Pepper was released.
I was born in 1980!
| quote: |
| i was 18 when darn floor was released...... |
I was 7 when darn floor was released......
AND -- I'm old enough that I'm married, have a mortgage, a home recording studio, etc. Ok, I'll shut up now!
Heh. Everyone tells me I was born in the wrong decade. My favorite bands/artists are DA, Larry Norman, Stonehill, Queen, Springsteen, Pink Floyd, etc.
As a musician, sure, I can here where some things sound dated -- but if the songs are good, I don't care if it's a little dated. I mean, can you imagine hearing Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite with modern production? It just wouldn't be the same without the classic "sound" from Martin's production...and the equipment available at the time. |
ditto on being born in the wrong decade.
Posted by Dr Rich on 04-15-2008 at19:53:
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Originally posted by DwDunphy
Let's see. What was I in 1980? Eleven? Is it possible?
For the record, I cannot comprehend being 14 (which is what I was when I found DA) and listening to this stuff. I just didn't think I had the capacity for it then! Gadzooks, it almost makes me seem... hip? How could that be?!? |
It makes me feel almost hip now, listening to this stuff!
Posted by Mountain Fan on 04-15-2008 at20:37:
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Originally posted by Strange Animal
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Originally posted by wes berlin
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Originally posted by Strange Animal
alarma and sgt. peppers both sound dated..........
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yes, but not as dated as "darn floor, big bite". i love dfbb but it sounds incredibly dated (like most stuff from the era).
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i guess it all depends.......
how you look at these things.................
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yep.
but i don't remember much synth or drum machines on dfbb?!
Alarma was not too dated, but far more so than dfbb
the worst ones for immediately sounding dated are Vox Humana and Fearful Symmetry
Posted by DwDunphy on 04-15-2008 at21:15:
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Originally posted by jyroflux
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Originally posted by Audiori J
...and people have pretty much gotten away from synth, vibe, digital sounding drums for the most part. |
And that's a good thing.
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Well, except for hip-hop which is sounding more and more like '80s new wave every day.
Posted by PuP on 04-15-2008 at22:32:
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Originally posted by Audiori J
Today people use synthesizer stuff, but it is waaaaaaay more advanced to the point its harder to tell its not real instruments, and people have pretty much gotten away from synth, vibe, digital sounding drums for the most part. |
Can we get them to stop using the auto-tune now?
Posted by Audiori J on 04-16-2008 at00:57:
iAlarma! reminded me of the Talking Heads 77 album, the one with "Who Is It?" on it which DA covered at the time in concert.
Posted by jiminy on 04-16-2008 at09:18:
I hear the Elvis Costello sound of that time too..sort of a Radio Radio vibe goin on.
Posted by John Foxe on 04-16-2008 at10:13:
Alarma rocks...
Most of the songs are very catchy with some cool guitar hooks.
Favorites:
Central Theme
Alarma
My Room
Faces...
Colored by
Through the Speakers
Endless Summer
Wall Of Doubt
Ghost of the Heart
anti-favorites:
Props - vocals flat
Mortal Coil - entire song too dissonant and weird
So many favorites. This was a very, very good recording for its time.
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