Daniel Amos Message Board | Print: Randy Stonehill -Between the Glory & The Flame

Posted by Jerry Davison on 04-02-2008 at12:03:

I love this record, too. "Die Young" is one of my favorite songs of all time -- Christian or otherwise. Just great power pop.

I met someone on YouTube.com who shares my love for old Christian music and he sent me via email the entire "Glory and the Flame" and "Equator" albums on mp3. They sound as if they were dubbed from vinyl but at least I have them. I can put them in my public folder if anyone is interested. Since they are otherwise unavailable and I'm confident you have all paid for these albums at one time or another, my conscience is clear. Pleased

Posted by jiminy on 04-02-2008 at12:08:

thas how I got em ..you can hear the pops and crackles

but thats OK... Big Grin

Posted by dfroystad on 04-02-2008 at12:50:

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Originally posted by Audiori J
Yeah its hard to say, I know it was advertised poorly.

The Reissue of "Sky Is Falling" was similar to the reissues of "Horrendous Disc", its like partially the Canadian, Partially the US and Partially the UK version, even though its claimed to be otherwise. Its been said that on the reissue of "Sky Is Falling" that Larry actually upped his own backing vocals somewhat. Although that may be an issue of using the wrong master which has often been the case.

From what i remember Larry said that the original master for "Sky Is Falling" was lost by Word, or they did not return it to him...or something like that. So the CD version was patched together by what was still avalible in the Solid Rock library....

Posted by Audiori J on 04-02-2008 at15:02:

Interesting story, there may be some bit of truth to it.

Posted by Audiori J on 04-02-2008 at15:04:

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Originally posted by ftg3plus4
Unless someone knows something I don't (always a possibility), there are actually three Stonehill albums that haven't been released on CD:

- Between The Glory And The Flame ('81)
- Equator ('83)
- Celebrate This Heartbeat ('84)

Correct. Parts of them have been issued on best of collections like the Randy Stonehill "Recollections" CD. Which also tends to make me think Word knows where the masters are.

Posted by Dr Rich on 04-02-2008 at17:03:

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Originally posted by dfroystad

quote:

Originally posted by Audiori J
Yeah its hard to say, I know it was advertised poorly.

The Reissue of "Sky Is Falling" was similar to the reissues of "Horrendous Disc", its like partially the Canadian, Partially the US and Partially the UK version, even though its claimed to be otherwise. Its been said that on the reissue of "Sky Is Falling" that Larry actually upped his own backing vocals somewhat. Although that may be an issue of using the wrong master which has often been the case.

From what i remember Larry said that the original master for "Sky Is Falling" was lost by Word, or they did not return it to him...or something like that. So the CD version was patched together by what was still avalible in the Solid Rock library....

I have not heard the reissue, but it seems Larry's backing vocals are pretty loud on the the version I have.

Posted by Dr Rich on 04-02-2008 at17:11:

Thumb Up!

Thanks!

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Originally posted by jiminy

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Originally posted by jiminy
is that available in any form??
never saw it.
(love the song too!)

FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE ..
(less TST I c)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY9_MQRdDNk

I really dig Tim's unfortunate mustache! Shocked

Keaggy had one just like it around the time.
It was the style of the day! Pleased

That video is Great Stuff! Cool

Posted by gingeflixen on 04-02-2008 at19:03:

quote:

Originally posted by Jerry Davison
I love this record, too. "Die Young" is one of my favorite songs of all time -- Christian or otherwise. Just great power pop.

I met someone on YouTube.com who shares my love for old Christian music and he sent me via email the entire "Glory and the Flame" and "Equator" albums on mp3. They sound as if they were dubbed from vinyl but at least I have them. I can put them in my public folder if anyone is interested. Since they are otherwise unavailable and I'm confident you have all paid for these albums at one time or another, my conscience is clear. Pleased

I'M INTERESTED! How does it work?

Posted by wakachiwaka on 04-02-2008 at19:36:

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Originally posted by jiminy
FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE ..
(less TST I c)

Looks like someone was trying to mimic the "Frampton Comes Alive!" cover with those last shots of Randy, what with the black Les Paul and the "I'm HUGE" low camera angle... Cool

Posted by RoxxRegime on 04-02-2008 at19:57:

:)

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I met someone on YouTube.com who shares my love for old Christian music and he sent me via email the entire "Glory and the Flame" and "Equator" albums on mp3. They sound as if they were dubbed from vinyl but at least I have them. I can put them in my public folder if anyone is interested. Since they are otherwise unavailable and I'm confident you have all paid for these albums at one time or another, my conscience is clear.

I would really appreciate it if we could do this! How does it work?

Posted by jiminy on 04-02-2008 at20:11:

RE: Thanks!

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Originally posted by Dr Rich

quote:

Originally posted by jiminy

quote:

Originally posted by jiminy
is that available in any form??
never saw it.
(love the song too!)

FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE ..
(less TST I c)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY9_MQRdDNk

I really dig Tim's unfortunate mustache! Shocked

Keaggy had one just like it around the time.
It was the style of the day! Pleased

That video is Great Stuff! Cool

Lord - I went through a "moustache" phase that was pretty awful. (it had some kind of resurgance in the early 90s..cuz there were others in the pics at that time..
it was not a good look for me.
Im clean shaven now- tried a Moustache/Beard a few times- that worked OK..a nice winter change round here

Posted by jiminy on 04-02-2008 at20:13:

pm me Cool

Posted by Dr Rich on 04-02-2008 at20:19:

RE: Thanks!

quote:

Originally posted by jiminy

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Originally posted by Dr Rich

quote:

Originally posted by jiminy

quote:

Originally posted by jiminy
is that available in any form??
never saw it.
(love the song too!)

FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE ..
(less TST I c)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY9_MQRdDNk

I really dig Tim's unfortunate mustache! Shocked

Keaggy had one just like it around the time.
It was the style of the day! Pleased

That video is Great Stuff! Cool

Lord - I went through a "moustache" phase that was pretty awful. (it had some kind of resurgance in the early 90s..cuz there were others in the pics at that time..
it was not a good look for me.
Im clean shaven now- tried a Moustache/Beard a few times- that worked OK..a nice winter change round here

I just shaved my beard on Saturday.

Posted by DwDunphy on 04-03-2008 at18:25:

There's something really special about "G&F". Although I love "Equator" and "China", "World Without Pain" and "Hide Them In Your Love" specifically, "G&F" just gels perfectly straight through. Again, though I'm a sucker for Uncle Randy's weirdness, "G&F" confines it to "Christine" and even then the underlying creepiness and message of modern media infatuations helps elevate it from Weird Al-isms.

While I have never understood why Word and Sparrow have buried their old releases in the OOP netherworld, I understand these two albums least of all.

Posted by ftg3plus4 on 04-04-2008 at10:56:

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Originally posted by DwDunphy
While I have never understood why Word and Sparrow have buried their old releases in the OOP netherworld, I understand these two albums least of all.

Generally, this sort of thing depends on who owns the rights to the album, and how many copies they think they could sell vs. how many they think they'd have to sell to make it worthwhile.

Besides that, I've noticed that Randy's '80s output tends to be somewhat looked down on today in comparison to his "critics favorite" albums like THE WILD FRONTIER and RETURN TO PARADISE. (BTW, I haven't particularly liked much of anything I've heard from those two albums.) Though, if that's the case, I wonder why LOVE BEYOND REASON got a CD release. Must have been a matter of who owned those rights, etc.

Posted by RoxxRegime on 04-04-2008 at11:03:

Eh, I think his 80's stuff was pretty hit or miss.

His 70's stuff was great (Welcome to Paradise, Get Me Out Of Hollywood & The Sky Is Falling. I just ordered Born Twice and Live & Greenbelt but haven't heard them yet), and the early 80's albums with Terry (BTGATF and Equator) are excellent... The Wild Frontier is great all the way through, Can't Buy A Miracle has a few good songs -- and everything else seems just way too, well, "CCM" for me -- to slick, polished, and taylor-made for Christian bookstores.

For the record, the songs I've heard from Edge of the World are excellent!

That's one thing that I love about DA -- they NEVER let themselves get pressured into sounding all squeaky clean!

Posted by Jerry Davison on 04-04-2008 at11:08:

Re: :)

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Originally posted by RoxxRegime

quote:

I met someone on YouTube.com who shares my love for old Christian music and he sent me via email the entire "Glory and the Flame" and "Equator" albums on mp3. They sound as if they were dubbed from vinyl but at least I have them. I can put them in my public folder if anyone is interested. Since they are otherwise unavailable and I'm confident you have all paid for these albums at one time or another, my conscience is clear.

I would really appreciate it if we could do this! How does it work?

I have a publicly accessible storage space. I'll upload the stuff and post a link here.

Posted by MarkyMark77 on 04-04-2008 at11:31:

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I have a publicly accessible storage space. I'll upload the stuff and post a link here.

Not being critical here, because I don't at all have a problem with this, but I'm curious what everyone thinks. How does this jive with the "Shotgun Angel download" thread? What is the difference?

Here's the thread:
http://www.danielamos.com/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=12390

Someone is probably going to end up hating me!!! Shocked

Sorry!

Posted by jiminy on 04-04-2008 at11:51:

to me its a matter of conscience..

b4 reading the thread ..if SA were totallly out of print -
is it??

we know that other DA/ SE and even LD are out of circulation and technically OOP

...I think the Audis have made their interpretation and position on this stuff pretty clear..

Thats why the reissues are important to get behind .
so your not Left Behind..like my Left Behind.

now to see the hub bub on the thread..

Posted by MarkyMark77 on 04-04-2008 at11:59:

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Thats why the reissues are important to get behind .

I certainly agree with that! I'm really looking forward to the "Darn Floor, Big Bite" and "HD" releases! It pains me to think that Terry would not receive compensation for his brilliant work; at the same time, I understand fans wanting to hear OOP stuff.

Is there a difference for some between sharing it amongst a small community (i.e., on this board) and just opening a download up for any and everyone? I'm curious to know what everyone thinks. The difference to me seems to be that, on this board, people would buy a reissue anyway, even if they could download it. But, that doesn't make it legal.

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to me its a matter of conscience..

So, Jiminy, what exactly is your stance on this most important of issues? Smile