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Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-11-2017 at07:38:

quote:

Originally posted by jyroflux
Can't wait to see who's who in HD land.

Also, only 311 backers? There must be a few thousand folks who would want this.

You'd be surprised at the "linkage blindness". How many DA fans are there who don't know about this board? Or have Facebook and don't know DA has a presence there (you do, don't you?)

BTW I will pull the trigger on my first Kickstarten! (thank you Rabbi Bergman). You can pay Kickstarten with PayPal, right? I just need to decide on a package. I want the LP set so bad but a linear digital copy too.

Posted by audiori on 03-11-2017 at09:03:

Oh absolutely... there are around 14000 on Facebook.... around 10000 in the store database ... a little more than half that on the news email list, etc, etc.

What surprises people is that it's not all of the same people. There is some overlap of course, but people that are on the email list are often people that don't like Facebook. People that follow the band on Facebook may not want the email, etc.

That's why we pretty much have to hit every venue. You can't rely on just one avenue of communication. A fairly large percentage will not do something like kickstarter, but will buy it eventually. A lot of DA fans will only buy specific kinds of releases... so you might have people that will buy Shotgun angel, bug they may not want HD. Or people that love the alarma chronicles, but won't buy the newest album. There are a lot of strange categories of DA fans out there... the sad thing is that there are still fans that lost connection somewhere along the line that may not yet realize the band is still active. It's hard to find them, but all of these numbers continue to grow after 18 years of doing this site, etc.

Posted by Audiori J on 03-11-2017 at09:18:

There are also a lot of old fans that are disconnected from the DA community, at Cornerstone we always had people come up and say they didn't know DA was still producing music. I don't know if these people live in caves or what, not sure how to reconnect with them. The old management tried to figure out how to solve that issue, but what magazine do you pay to advertise in? Christian radio...? The internet is the best current way, but even that doesn't seem to do it in every case. I used to wonder about paying for a billboard along one of the nations busiest highways. Even if you had one for a month... maybe?

And all of that is geared toward reconnecting with old fans, how you generate new ones might be entirely different.

Posted by mindgasket on 03-11-2017 at11:47:

Kickstarters are awesome, but if you're not 'following' the artist or aren't signed up to receive their latest digital newsletter you can miss it. I missed Bill Mallonee's Kickstarter to issue Audible Sigh on vinyl by 7 days!! That's one of the top five albums I'd hope would be released on vinyl some day, and I was just out of the loop and hadn't visited the DAMB in a while, that's how I found out about it.

I linked this Kickstarter for HD to a few of the HD YouTube videos in case someone might stumble on it.

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-11-2017 at16:06:

quote:

Originally posted by audiori
Oh absolutely... there are around 14000 on Facebook.... around 10000 in the store database ... a little more than half that on the news email list, etc, etc.

What surprises people is that it's not all of the same people. There is some overlap of course, but people that are on the email list are often people that don't like Facebook. People that follow the band on Facebook may not want the email, etc.

That's why we pretty much have to hit every venue. You can't rely on just one avenue of communication. A fairly large percentage will not do something like kickstarter, but will buy it eventually. A lot of DA fans will only buy specific kinds of releases... so you might have people that will buy Shotgun angel, bug they may not want HD. Or people that love the alarma chronicles, but won't buy the newest album. There are a lot of strange categories of DA fans out there... the sad thing is that there are still fans that lost connection somewhere along the line that may not yet realize the band is still active. It's hard to find them, but all of these numbers continue to grow after 18 years of doing this site, etc.

I will scoop up every single new DA release especially on LP. And I still want Jerry to do something so I can get it on LP.

Posted by mindgasket on 03-13-2017 at07:43:

How about a 2nd t-shirt option like this?

I've been waiting to choose a Kickstarter package until I saw the tshirt design, and I don't think I'll choose a tshirt package with the current design. When I think of HD I think classic, and the current tshirt looks like it could be a Swirling Eddies design. Just my personal taste, I guess.

Posted by Audiori J on 03-13-2017 at17:50:

Yeah the back does look like a wacky Eddies thing. Although they were doing a pretty wacky eddies like thing at the time in concert with costumes and stuff. Thats the Preachers from Outer space bit. They had also planned an EP at the time of HD that has some comedy bits in it. The Eddies have always been there peeking out from under the surface.

Posted by mindgasket on 03-13-2017 at21:31:

Yeah, I can see what you're saying. Spittle and Phlegm isn't so far removed.

Posted by Ron E on 03-15-2017 at18:31:

quote:

Originally posted by mindgasket
Kickstarters are awesome, but if you're not 'following' the artist or aren't signed up to receive their latest digital newsletter you can miss it. I missed Bill Mallonee's Kickstarter to issue Audible Sigh on vinyl by 7 days!! That's one of the top five albums I'd hope would be released on vinyl some day, and I was just out of the loop and hadn't visited the DAMB in a while, that's how I found out about it.

I linked this Kickstarter for HD to a few of the HD YouTube videos in case someone might stumble on it.

You're not too late! Go to his bandcamp or Facebook page for more information.

Posted by mindgasket on 03-17-2017 at07:38:

Thanks!

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-19-2017 at05:15:

quote:

Originally posted by mindgasket
How about a 2nd t-shirt option like this?

The disk looks like a green olive complete with pimento! People will see you wearing that and ask "Just what the H%^$?" and you can explain the whole DA/Eddies business to them.

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-19-2017 at05:18:

Just asked Jerry on Twitter if the success of the HD reissue will encourage him to have another go at his Kickshtarten project. I'll keep doing this until he gets a restraining order on me or he makes the darn album!

I can see it now- Dig Here... HD and whatever Jerry pops out, all side-by-side on my rickety LP shelf...

Posted by mindgasket on 03-20-2017 at08:42:

maybe this instead...

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-20-2017 at12:16:

Jerry answered- yes! No time specified, though.

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-20-2017 at12:30:

RE: maybe this instead...

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Originally posted by mindgasket

Who is that person? I suspect he does not exist.

Posted by joey on 03-20-2017 at14:44:

Cool

RE: maybe this instead...

you know, i didn't realize until like the last 5 years that jerry is singing where i thought it was terry..
i like jerry.
i just wish i had of ordered this only slightly sooner.
i was #78... Crying

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-21-2017 at06:44:

I am perusing the various levels...but I do not see "sensuous shoulder rub from Berger". That's the mythical $500 level.

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-21-2017 at06:52:

Big Grin

I'm in for the top level. It's my first Kickshtarten.

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-22-2017 at04:41:

Actually, no. I've tried and failed three times. I'll try it again. They were not able to "process" whatever that means. I am aware the amount is not charged until the deadline.

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-22-2017 at04:51:

Oh brother- I think I found the problem. It worked this time. When I put in the card info before, I put in my name "as it appears on the card", in all caps, first and last and middle initial.

example:

ANGUS G BERGERLOVER

The form didn't ask for this, but every other card input ever asks for this so I did it. On a whim, this morning, I put my name in again just first, MI and last, capitalized but not in all caps.

example:

Angus G Bergerlover

That worked. Go figure.

I'm a backer now! For reals.